So about this 10 year challenge thing

"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove) 01/18/2019 at 15:49 • Filed to: conspiracy theories

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I came across !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! yesterday proposing that this meme is a way to get people to volunteer data for facial recognition algorithms. It’s worth a read. Regardless of what you think about the article, and I think it’s just an entertaining read, I remain in the camp that says it’s best to avoid putting any more data about yourself out into the ether than necessary.

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nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 15:55

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If Facebook really wanted to all they’d have to do is look back at profile picture 2009 and picture 2019 . They already have more data than they need, especially since they have the auto tag or suggested tag feature. 

HammerheadFistpunch > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 15:57

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new rules.

Here is me in 2009

Here is me in 2019

Suck it algorithm.  

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 15:57

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tl;dr - don’t Facebook.

AestheticsInMotion > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 15:58

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When Google Glass was a thing, that app that scanned faces and gave you data on the person in your heads up display... Oh man. Coolest thing ever. Massive invasion of privacy? Sure. But.... It doesn't get much more sci-fi than that. I want to look at someone and instantly know the cars they own

The Dummy Gummy > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 16:01

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Why wouldn’t they use all the harvested data in their servers? Seems like a silly idea given pictures aren’t going to have the same angle.

HammerheadFistpunch > AestheticsInMotion 01/18/2019 at 16:01

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* Bob, 31. Owns a 2005 camry solara in silver *

“Hi, im bob!”

“yeah I know...get away from me.”

facw > AestheticsInMotion 01/18/2019 at 16:01

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Yeah, I want that feature, though I get why people would be weirded out by it. But that’s not why most people were bothered about G lass, it seemed like people didn’t like that it had a camera (despite the fact that every phone has one).

The Dummy Gummy > AestheticsInMotion 01/18/2019 at 16:01

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Did it actually work? Where was the point of service for the data?

AestheticsInMotion > The Dummy Gummy 01/18/2019 at 16:03

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Yes, but it was removed due to the massive backlash. 

Chariotoflove > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/18/2019 at 16:03

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The article mentions that.  But it also runs with the idea that profile pics are a heterogenous and scattered data set with ambiguous ages attached.  This meme would get you two pics identified by person, exactly 10 years apart and presented in an easily mineable fashion.

OPPOsaurus WRX > HammerheadFistpunch 01/18/2019 at 16:03

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how much of a bad idea would it be to invest in some real climbing equipment so that I could “safely” climb a tree to remove some rather large branches hanging over my house. the thought is that I could safely get to places that I normally couldn’ t otherwise and with rope s and pulli es cut down the branches and lower then to the ground without putting new skylights in my house.

Chariotoflove > HammerheadFistpunch 01/18/2019 at 16:03

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Wow, you didn’t get very far down that rock in 10 years.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 16:04

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Rules to live by.

HammerheadFistpunch > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 16:04

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and it aged me terribly.  

Chariotoflove > AestheticsInMotion 01/18/2019 at 16:06

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Wish we had a world where we could be sure our data wasn’t misused.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > facw 01/18/2019 at 16:08

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Sure, every phone has a camera, but that camera is not on your face constantly recording whats going on around you.  Plus it is usually pretty obvious when someone whips out their phone to take a picture which gives you the option of asking them not to take your picture, or moving away from where they’re taking a picture.

HammerheadFistpunch > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/18/2019 at 16:08

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I t’ s not a great plan. I have all the gear necessary and the skills to put them to use and i’ve tried it with little success. You will have a hard time rigging the line so that it will be useful and outside of specialized descending devices with auto- braking you still have to manually lock off...and it only prevents you from falling not whacking your body into the bulk of the tree. It’ s certainly a good idea to use ropes as fall protection, but I’ve found its not very practical.

You should look into tree climbing gear specifically, such as logging spikes and straps.  They would probably be more useful and safe...or just rent a cherry picker.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > HammerheadFistpunch 01/18/2019 at 16:08

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Though the erosion seems to have smoothed the rock quite nicely.

Chariotoflove > The Dummy Gummy 01/18/2019 at 16:09

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The article proposes that this meme provides a ready and identifiable data set with a reliable 10 year period between photos.  The article explains it in detail. I’m not saying it’s a real thing, just that it’s interesting.

HammerheadFistpunch > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 01/18/2019 at 16:09

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indeed.

Future Heap Owner > facw 01/18/2019 at 16:09

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There’s a big difference between a camera that’s in your pocket most of the time vs a camera that makes it so I literally cannot interact with you in person without having it pointed  at me the whole time.

facw > Future Heap Owner 01/18/2019 at 16:10

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True, though it did have a light to show when it was “recording”.

Future Heap Owner > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/18/2019 at 16:10

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When I used FB, my profile pic was often not my face.

facw > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 01/18/2019 at 16:11

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I suspect it is not as obvious as you think. And glass did show when it was recording.

Future Heap Owner > The Dummy Gummy 01/18/2019 at 16:13

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They have a lot of data, but less of an idea of what it is. These pics, they have a very good idea of what it is. The hard part of making good data is having good labels.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 16:13

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I do have an account, though it’s been a couple of years since I posted anything on there.

I keep thinking about deleting it entirely, but never bother.

OPPOsaurus WRX > HammerheadFistpunch 01/18/2019 at 16:14

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rent a cherry picker, now we’re speaking the language of OPPO.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 16:15

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It’s harder to delete a Facebook account (for real) than it is to cancel your cable.  I have a page too, but I never sign on.  I just used it once to find an old friend.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 16:16

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Yeah, and I know damn well that they won’t delete whatever data they have on my anyways, so I don’t bother - I just try not to add to it.

The Dummy Gummy > AestheticsInMotion 01/18/2019 at 16:23

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That’s insane. Wish I had it. I’m the worst with peoples names haha

The Dummy Gummy > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 16:23

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I should of read, but I saw this and reacted. I’ll check it out. Thanks for the snippet of info!

Chariotoflove > The Dummy Gummy 01/18/2019 at 16:25

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No, that’s cool.  We all budget our time.  I don’t read every link in every post either.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Future Heap Owner 01/18/2019 at 16:52

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Wich I'm sure there's plenty that didn't, but look at the millions that did.

ttyymmnn > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 17:08

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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 17:10

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I don’t.

People I want to talk to are either here, or they have my number. If giving me a call or shooting me a message is too much for them, I probably didn’t want to talk to them anyway.

I’d rather have a few great/close friends than have 700 FB ( read fake ) friends.  

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 17:11

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So much this. I do not have Facebook, and I don’t Twit. You hear so many stories about awful things dug out of people’s FB past. Guess what--if you don’t have FB, then you don’t have to worry.

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 01/18/2019 at 17:12

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Ah but think of all the cat videos and fake news you’re missing!

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 17:13

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Damn, how will I ever survive!?!?!

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 01/18/2019 at 17:15

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I’ve seen a study somewhere that basically said people on Facebook are less happy than those who aren’t.  It makes perfect sense to me.

DipodomysDeserti > Chariotoflove 01/18/2019 at 17:15

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The article may be correct, but think they’ve already got pretty damn good aging algorithms. For example, I have a google photos account, and they have algorithms that try to organize your photos for you. They predict which faces are the same people, then ask you if it’s the same person. I have some historical family photos on there, and it could tell which ones were my great grandfather over an 80 year period using photos from WWI into the 90s (he lived to 102). It could also tell who my grandmother ones from the time she was a teen into her 80s.

However, it thought my wife and SIL were the same person.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 01/18/2019 at 17:18

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That, or don’t say/do awful things, I suppose.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 17:18

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Makes sense to me.

One can’t be out happily living their life when they’re constantly glued to a screen.

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 01/18/2019 at 17:22

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So much this, too.

ttyymmnn > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 01/18/2019 at 17:22

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One can’t be out happily living their life when they’re constantly glued to a screen.

You haven’t met my kids.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > ttyymmnn 01/18/2019 at 17:27

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Oblivious =/= happy.

ttyymmnn > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 01/18/2019 at 17:52

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No, but they seem happy in their obliviousness.

Future Heap Owner > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/18/2019 at 18:16

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Yeah, but without knowing who did and didn’t, the data is much less useful. The hard part of getting good data for machine learning is having good, accurate labels.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Chariotoflove 01/19/2019 at 05:03

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i have the same car i did 10 years ago.

Chariotoflove > pip bip - choose Corrour 01/19/2019 at 11:52

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I count that as a good thing  

Jason Spears > AestheticsInMotion 01/30/2019 at 18:29

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Massive invasion of privacy?

O nly if non-public data was used. Or if you wore it into places considered private and off-limits to cameras or recording equipment.